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		<title>Comment on 525,600 minutes: How do you measure a player in a year? by MASH Report (5/3/13) &#124; FanGraphs Fantasy Baseball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MASH Report (5/3/13) &#124; FanGraphs Fantasy Baseball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from a small sample, but the season is now 1/6th done. Some stats are getting to the point where they [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Building a sabermetrician&#039;s workbench, part II by And So It Begins&#8230; &#124; MSilb Baseball Scouting and Analytics</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And So It Begins&#8230; &#124; MSilb Baseball Scouting and Analytics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] information about how databases work. In the image above, I modified code from Hardball Times and Statistically Speaking to output the career home run leaders for the formerly named Florida Marlins (through [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] information about how databases work. In the image above, I modified code from Hardball Times and Statistically Speaking to output the career home run leaders for the formerly named Florida Marlins (through [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ah, so we meet again&#8230; by Quora</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Does the pitcher or the batter typically have the advantage if they haven&#039;t faced each other previously?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I found this statistical study of historical box score data on a blog (http://statspeakmvn.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/ah_so_we_meet_again/) which hints that the pitcher-batter confrontation initially favors the pitcher very slightly, and then trends towa...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Does the pitcher or the batter typically have the advantage if they haven&#8217;t faced each other previously?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I found this statistical study of historical box score data on a blog (<a href="http://statspeakmvn.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/ah_so_we_meet_again/" rel="nofollow">http://statspeakmvn.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/ah_so_we_meet_again/</a>) which hints that the pitcher-batter confrontation initially favors the pitcher very slightly, and then trends towa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ah, so we meet again&#8230; by The Difficulty of Scouting Yu Darvish &#124; Yu Darvish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Difficulty of Scouting Yu Darvish &#124; Yu Darvish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is some good news for the Orioles: when our own Russell Carleton took a look at historic batter-pitcher matchups, he found that while a pitcher has an advantage over a hitter in their first few confrontations, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is some good news for the Orioles: when our own Russell Carleton took a look at historic batter-pitcher matchups, he found that while a pitcher has an advantage over a hitter in their first few confrontations, [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Hard Goodbye &#8211; Part One by Catcher Influence - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catcher Influence - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Deal With Derby Participants by Attacking The Home Run Derby Effect &#124; Brotherly Glove</title>
		<link>http://statspeakmvn.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/the-deal-with-derby-participants/#comment-3285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attacking The Home Run Derby Effect &#124; Brotherly Glove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] two years ago today I wrote an article titled The Deal With Derby Participants over at &#8216;Statistically Speaking&#8217;, the sabermetrics section at the now-defunct MVN.com. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] two years ago today I wrote an article titled The Deal With Derby Participants over at &#8216;Statistically Speaking&#8217;, the sabermetrics section at the now-defunct MVN.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Position Players on the Hill by joe arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe arthur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike,



your table has some errors, and your 50 game minimum leaves some seasons on the table, although that doesn&#039;t explain some of the players you missed.

Your article says players in the last 15 years, but you pick up scattered players before 1994 (counting 15 back from 2008 - latest year available (i assume) in bbdatabank): Tim wallach (1987 but not 1989), Paul O&#039;Neill 1987, Kevin Seitzer 1993,  Darrin Jackson 1991, although there were about 50 to find between 1987 and 1993.



You have the right pitching line for Derrick Bell, but associate it with 1996 instead of 2000.In general you seem to list the wrong year for the pitching performance, which probably has something to do with your misbehaving selection criteria.



Your list leaves out Mike Aldred 1996, Mike Benjamin 1997, Wade Bogg&#039;s 2nd season with an appearance (1999), a 2nd year for john Cangelosi 1995 (or 1997? - the pitching lines are similar), Chris Donnels 2001, gary Gaetti&#039;s 2nd and 3rd seasons (1998,1999), shane halter 2000, Tim Laker&#039;s 2nd season (2004), John Mabry&#039;s 2nd season (2001), Frank Menechino&#039;s 2nd season (2004), Kevin Osik&#039;s 2nd season (2000) , Andy Tomberlin (1994), Todd Zeile&#039;s 2nd season (2004).



here is a mysql query with a very compact and reasonably good criterion for distinguishing players who mainly were used as hitters or position players and not as pitchers. I haven&#039;t seen it give any false positives even with low #&#039;s of games pitched and played.

select p.playerID,

          p.yearid,

         p.bfp-p.hbp-p.ibb-p.so-p.bb-p.hr BIP,

        p.h-p.hr biph,

        p.hr,

        b.g,

        p.g

from pitching p

left outer join batting b

on p.playerid=b.playerid and p.yearid=b.yearid and p.stint=b.stint and p.teamid=b.teamid

where ipoutscoalesce(p.g,0)) and p.yearid&gt;1986;



Anyway for 1994 on, position players have allowed 60 non-HR hits on approximately 206 BIP, along with 10 HR. The BABIP is .291, but I have always disagreed with the premise that subtracting out HR helps you measure a distinct skill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>your table has some errors, and your 50 game minimum leaves some seasons on the table, although that doesn&#8217;t explain some of the players you missed.</p>
<p>Your article says players in the last 15 years, but you pick up scattered players before 1994 (counting 15 back from 2008 &#8211; latest year available (i assume) in bbdatabank): Tim wallach (1987 but not 1989), Paul O&#8217;Neill 1987, Kevin Seitzer 1993,  Darrin Jackson 1991, although there were about 50 to find between 1987 and 1993.</p>
<p>You have the right pitching line for Derrick Bell, but associate it with 1996 instead of 2000.In general you seem to list the wrong year for the pitching performance, which probably has something to do with your misbehaving selection criteria.</p>
<p>Your list leaves out Mike Aldred 1996, Mike Benjamin 1997, Wade Bogg&#8217;s 2nd season with an appearance (1999), a 2nd year for john Cangelosi 1995 (or 1997? &#8211; the pitching lines are similar), Chris Donnels 2001, gary Gaetti&#8217;s 2nd and 3rd seasons (1998,1999), shane halter 2000, Tim Laker&#8217;s 2nd season (2004), John Mabry&#8217;s 2nd season (2001), Frank Menechino&#8217;s 2nd season (2004), Kevin Osik&#8217;s 2nd season (2000) , Andy Tomberlin (1994), Todd Zeile&#8217;s 2nd season (2004).</p>
<p>here is a mysql query with a very compact and reasonably good criterion for distinguishing players who mainly were used as hitters or position players and not as pitchers. I haven&#8217;t seen it give any false positives even with low #&#8217;s of games pitched and played.</p>
<p>select p.playerID,</p>
<p>          p.yearid,</p>
<p>         p.bfp-p.hbp-p.ibb-p.so-p.bb-p.hr BIP,</p>
<p>        p.h-p.hr biph,</p>
<p>        p.hr,</p>
<p>        b.g,</p>
<p>        p.g</p>
<p>from pitching p</p>
<p>left outer join batting b</p>
<p>on p.playerid=b.playerid and p.yearid=b.yearid and p.stint=b.stint and p.teamid=b.teamid</p>
<p>where ipoutscoalesce(p.g,0)) and p.yearid&gt;1986;</p>
<p>Anyway for 1994 on, position players have allowed 60 non-HR hits on approximately 206 BIP, along with 10 HR. The BABIP is .291, but I have always disagreed with the premise that subtracting out HR helps you measure a distinct skill.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking Down a Pitcher&#039;s Stuff: Fastball Velocity by Pizza Cutter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pizza Cutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stuff on foul balls:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html&lt;/a&gt;
Foul balls are included in Retrosheet data from about 1993-present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff on foul balls:<br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html</a><br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html</a><br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html</a><br />
Foul balls are included in Retrosheet data from about 1993-present.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking Down a Pitcher&#8217;s Stuff: Fastball Velocity by Pizza Cutter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pizza Cutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stuff on foul balls:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html&lt;/a&gt;
Foul balls are included in Retrosheet data from about 1993-present.
]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff on foul balls:<br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-one-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-batter.html</a><br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-two-what-does-it-tell-us-about-a-pitcher.html</a><br />
<a href="http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html" rel="nofollow">http://statspeak.net/2008/04/the-foul-ball-part-three-what-does-it-tell-us-about-an-at-bat.html</a><br />
Foul balls are included in Retrosheet data from about 1993-present.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking Down a Pitcher&#039;s Stuff: Fastball Velocity by Mike Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rogers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 07:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference in points in the Velocity/Whiff rate graph at 95 and 98 looks to be the same distance between 95 and 98 on the foul vs. velocity graph. So I&#039;d guesstimate that your conclusion about batters going from fouling them off to just missing them altogether is most likely correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in points in the Velocity/Whiff rate graph at 95 and 98 looks to be the same distance between 95 and 98 on the foul vs. velocity graph. So I&#8217;d guesstimate that your conclusion about batters going from fouling them off to just missing them altogether is most likely correct.</p>
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